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  • 27 Mar 2020
    1. Introduction The role of the androgen receptor in CNS masculinization or the absence of same in male feminisationThe medial posterior region of the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis (BSTMP) and the locus coeruleus (LC) show opposite patterns of sexual dimorphism. The BSTMP in males is greater in volume and number of neurons than in females (male N female) while in the LC, the opposite is true (female N male). To investigate the possible role of the androgen receptor (AR) in the masculinization of these two structures, males with the testicular feminization mutation (Tfm) were compared to their control littermate males. No differences were seen in the number of neurons of the BSTMP between Tfm and their control littermate males, while in the LC, Tfm males have a greater number of neurons than their control littermate males. These results show that the AR is involved in the control of neuron number in the LC but not in the BSTMP. Results based on the LC suggest that when females have a larger brain area than males, masculinization in males may be achieved through the AR, with androgens perhaps decreasing cell survival.Sex differences in the mammalian brain have two main characteristics: they often occur in neural circuits relatedto reproductive physiology and behavior and they are seen in two opposite morphological patterns In onepattern, males have greater volumes and/or number of neurons than females (male N female), while in the other, the opposite is true (female N male) Existing evidence suggest that gonadal androgens are involved in the development of sex differences in structures that are larger in males than in females,  Cristine:- So is it safe to say the percentage difference between the number of neurons BSTMP M to F and F to male affect the degree of GID and could possible it result in dual gender identity when more or less balanced? with no predominate influence.  The scientific literature has already come to a consensus on the existence of cognitive sex differences, especially with regard to spatial ability. Both neural/hormonal and social factors contribute to those differences. See Diane Halpern's "Sex Differences in Cognitive Abilities". Stereotypes, including gender stereotypes, are mostly accurate. So saying that some view or conclusion is a gender stereotype is not a real criticism. See Lee Jussim's "Social Perception and Social Reality: Why Accuracy Dominates Bias and Self-Fulfilling Prophecy". Finally, let's assume the real reason why women have bigger corpus callosums is that they have smaller brains. Does the relation between sex and corpus callosum size cease to exist? No. Women on average will still have larger corpus callosums and all the (presumed) behavioural/cognitive characteristics associated with it.  If you look at the sexual dimorphism from an evolutionary perspective, this makes perfect sense. In early human societies, men went out to hunt while women stayed in the village (with very few exceptions). The traits that made men more successful were those that allowed them to be better hunters and warriors: so coordinated action, perception of environmental opportunities and dangers. For the women in the village, their success is more dependent on "politics" and relationships. Instead of organizing hunts, the successful woman is one who is well liked by people and use strong communication skills and wits to solve problems (and not braun since they will lose to the stronger males). Thus over time, as the traits that marks a successful man and woman differs, it makes sense that there should be sexual dimorphism in brain structures.  Which in turn is a probable and logical cause for some brain structure difference in male to female transexuals.      Garcia-Falgueras A, Swaab DF Endocr Dev. 2010;17:22-35  The fetal brain develops during the intrauterine period in the male direction through a direct action of testosterone on the developing nerve cells, or in the female direction through the absence of this hormone surge. In this way, our gender identity (the conviction of belonging to the male or female gender) and sexual orientation are programmed or organized into our brain structures when we are still in the womb. However, since sexual differentiation of the genitals takes place in the first two months of pregnancy and sexual differentiation of the brain starts in the second half of pregnancy, these two processes can be influenced independently, which may result in extreme cases in trans-sexuality. This also means that in the event of ambiguous sex at birth, the degree of masculinization of the genitals may not reflect the degree of masculinization of the brain. in fact in the examination of male to female transexuals the brain composition would suggest varying degrees  uf under masculisation vegring on the near total feminisation. There is no indication that social environment after birth has an effect on gender identity or sexual orientation  
  • 1. Introduction The role of the androgen receptor in CNS masculinization or the absence of same in male feminisationThe medial posterior region of the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis (BSTMP) and the locus coeruleus (LC) show opposite patterns of sexual dimorphism. The BSTMP in males is greater in volume and number of neurons than in females (male N female) while in the LC, the opposite is true (female N male). To investigate the possible role of the androgen receptor (AR) in the masculinization of these two structures, males with the testicular feminization mutation (Tfm) were compared to their control littermate males. No differences were seen in the number of neurons of the BSTMP between Tfm and their control littermate males, while in the LC, Tfm males have a greater number of neurons than their control littermate males. These results show that the AR is involved in the control of neuron number in the LC but not in the BSTMP. Results based on the LC suggest that when females have a larger brain area than males, masculinization in males may be achieved through the AR, with androgens perhaps decreasing cell survival.Sex differences in the mammalian brain have two main characteristics: they often occur in neural circuits relatedto reproductive physiology and behavior and they are seen in two opposite morphological patterns In onepattern, males have greater volumes and/or number of neurons than females (male N female), while in the other, the opposite is true (female N male) Existing evidence suggest that gonadal androgens are involved in the development of sex differences in structures that are larger in males than in females,  Cristine:- So is it safe to say the percentage difference between the number of neurons BSTMP M to F and F to male affect the degree of GID and could possible it result in dual gender identity when more or less balanced? with no predominate influence.  The scientific literature has already come to a consensus on the existence of cognitive sex differences, especially with regard to spatial ability. Both neural/hormonal and social factors contribute to those differences. See Diane Halpern's "Sex Differences in Cognitive Abilities". Stereotypes, including gender stereotypes, are mostly accurate. So saying that some view or conclusion is a gender stereotype is not a real criticism. See Lee Jussim's "Social Perception and Social Reality: Why Accuracy Dominates Bias and Self-Fulfilling Prophecy". Finally, let's assume the real reason why women have bigger corpus callosums is that they have smaller brains. Does the relation between sex and corpus callosum size cease to exist? No. Women on average will still have larger corpus callosums and all the (presumed) behavioural/cognitive characteristics associated with it.  If you look at the sexual dimorphism from an evolutionary perspective, this makes perfect sense. In early human societies, men went out to hunt while women stayed in the village (with very few exceptions). The traits that made men more successful were those that allowed them to be better hunters and warriors: so coordinated action, perception of environmental opportunities and dangers. For the women in the village, their success is more dependent on "politics" and relationships. Instead of organizing hunts, the successful woman is one who is well liked by people and use strong communication skills and wits to solve problems (and not braun since they will lose to the stronger males). Thus over time, as the traits that marks a successful man and woman differs, it makes sense that there should be sexual dimorphism in brain structures.  Which in turn is a probable and logical cause for some brain structure difference in male to female transexuals.      Garcia-Falgueras A, Swaab DF Endocr Dev. 2010;17:22-35  The fetal brain develops during the intrauterine period in the male direction through a direct action of testosterone on the developing nerve cells, or in the female direction through the absence of this hormone surge. In this way, our gender identity (the conviction of belonging to the male or female gender) and sexual orientation are programmed or organized into our brain structures when we are still in the womb. However, since sexual differentiation of the genitals takes place in the first two months of pregnancy and sexual differentiation of the brain starts in the second half of pregnancy, these two processes can be influenced independently, which may result in extreme cases in trans-sexuality. This also means that in the event of ambiguous sex at birth, the degree of masculinization of the genitals may not reflect the degree of masculinization of the brain. in fact in the examination of male to female transexuals the brain composition would suggest varying degrees  uf under masculisation vegring on the near total feminisation. There is no indication that social environment after birth has an effect on gender identity or sexual orientation  
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  • 16 Mar 2020
    So I'm at work yesterday and the mail clerk starts handing out letters from upper management. At this point, I'm thinking "Oh crap, how am I gonna tell my family I got laid off?" Fortunately, I'm only 35 years old. You'll understand when you read the letter. QUOTE CONOVIRUS IMPLICATIONS Due to the current financial situation caused by the slowdown of economy, Management has decided to implement a scheme to put workers of 40 years of age and above on early retirement. This scheme will be known as RAPE (Retire Aged People Early).Persons selected to be RAPED can apply to management to be eligible for the SHAFT scheme (Special Help After Forced Termination). Persons who have been RAPED and SHAFTED will be reviewed under the SCREW programme (Scheme Covering Retired Early Workers). A person may be RAPED once, SHAFTED twice and SCREWED as many times as Management deems appropriate.Persons who have been RAPED can only get AIDS (Additional Income for Dependants & Spouse) or HERPES (Half Earnings for Retired Personnel Early Severance).Obviously persons who have AIDS or HERPES will not be SHAFTED or SCREWED any further by Management.Persons who are not RAPED and are staying on will receive as much shit (Special High Intensity Training) as possible. Management has always prided itself on the amount of shit it gives employees. Should you feel that you do not receive enough shit, please bring to the attention of your Manager. They have been trained to give you all the shit you can get.Great, as if I didn't get enough shit already....Eventually those working till they reach the recognised retirement age will have their pensions worked out by PERV(permanent employment rateable value)so this is the sort of thing you learn at law school is it Crissi - pmsl 
  • So I'm at work yesterday and the mail clerk starts handing out letters from upper management. At this point, I'm thinking "Oh crap, how am I gonna tell my family I got laid off?" Fortunately, I'm only 35 years old. You'll understand when you read the letter. QUOTE CONOVIRUS IMPLICATIONS Due to the current financial situation caused by the slowdown of economy, Management has decided to implement a scheme to put workers of 40 years of age and above on early retirement. This scheme will be known as RAPE (Retire Aged People Early).Persons selected to be RAPED can apply to management to be eligible for the SHAFT scheme (Special Help After Forced Termination). Persons who have been RAPED and SHAFTED will be reviewed under the SCREW programme (Scheme Covering Retired Early Workers). A person may be RAPED once, SHAFTED twice and SCREWED as many times as Management deems appropriate.Persons who have been RAPED can only get AIDS (Additional Income for Dependants & Spouse) or HERPES (Half Earnings for Retired Personnel Early Severance).Obviously persons who have AIDS or HERPES will not be SHAFTED or SCREWED any further by Management.Persons who are not RAPED and are staying on will receive as much shit (Special High Intensity Training) as possible. Management has always prided itself on the amount of shit it gives employees. Should you feel that you do not receive enough shit, please bring to the attention of your Manager. They have been trained to give you all the shit you can get.Great, as if I didn't get enough shit already....Eventually those working till they reach the recognised retirement age will have their pensions worked out by PERV(permanent employment rateable value)so this is the sort of thing you learn at law school is it Crissi - pmsl 
    Mar 16, 2020 219
  • 13 Mar 2020
    THIS IS A JOKE   Imagine having a magic mirror. Pull a guy take him home. Ask him what he would like? He says, ''Well I would prefer it if your tit's were  a lot bigger'' you turn to the mirror and say ''mirror, mirror on the wall make my tit's grow to 44'' Whoosh your boobs are transformed, you say ''take a seat, I will just go freshen up and change into something sexy'' While your away he stands in front of the mirror and say's  ''mirror mirror on the wall make my cock touch the floor''     WHOOSH! AND HIS LEGS DISAPPEARED    
  • THIS IS A JOKE   Imagine having a magic mirror. Pull a guy take him home. Ask him what he would like? He says, ''Well I would prefer it if your tit's were  a lot bigger'' you turn to the mirror and say ''mirror, mirror on the wall make my tit's grow to 44'' Whoosh your boobs are transformed, you say ''take a seat, I will just go freshen up and change into something sexy'' While your away he stands in front of the mirror and say's  ''mirror mirror on the wall make my cock touch the floor''     WHOOSH! AND HIS LEGS DISAPPEARED    
    Mar 13, 2020 228
  • 03 Mar 2020
    In my years of being bisexual i have been called a pervert child molester a bisexual fagget and until recently this has never bothered me my question is why is it ok for a lady to be bisexual or a lesbian but not a guy. To me love is love whether two men or two women i have many friends that are bi or gay both men and women have transgender friends also this group is very supportive to others like no other groups ive been in. Im married to a lady that is very ok with who i am.
    194 Posted by David Beeler
  • In my years of being bisexual i have been called a pervert child molester a bisexual fagget and until recently this has never bothered me my question is why is it ok for a lady to be bisexual or a lesbian but not a guy. To me love is love whether two men or two women i have many friends that are bi or gay both men and women have transgender friends also this group is very supportive to others like no other groups ive been in. Im married to a lady that is very ok with who i am.
    Mar 03, 2020 194
  • 17 Feb 2020
    I thought about wearing knitted cuffs, cos I knit a bit, but maybe leg warmers! This is ideas for work wear..... I knitted a cardigan once,.... The picture in my head did not match up to the fotos of me wearing it, I'm just a big ugly body :( But so so such is life, and I just enjoy wearing, and it makes me feel good to wear feminine clothing, and society generally has a real dour view.... Well, maybe, the cis gender media that has been allowed to permeate, what is life? Well certainly not the sad group of "newspapers, nor the Google search results now paid for by the aforementioned bemoaned media" Not my life anyhow,
    168 Posted by Damsel Distress
  • I thought about wearing knitted cuffs, cos I knit a bit, but maybe leg warmers! This is ideas for work wear..... I knitted a cardigan once,.... The picture in my head did not match up to the fotos of me wearing it, I'm just a big ugly body :( But so so such is life, and I just enjoy wearing, and it makes me feel good to wear feminine clothing, and society generally has a real dour view.... Well, maybe, the cis gender media that has been allowed to permeate, what is life? Well certainly not the sad group of "newspapers, nor the Google search results now paid for by the aforementioned bemoaned media" Not my life anyhow,
    Feb 17, 2020 168
  • 25 Dec 2019
    We all have to wear them. Unless you live in a nudist camp. Can I really have an issue with wearing them? I sure can. It is not wearing them per se, but the kind of clothes that is my issue. So, yes I do have a thing about clothing. There are several areas to explore here. My relationship with guy clothes. My wardrobe. And, my ability to wear certain clothing items. I actually do not have a real relationship with guy clothes anymore. But, I did when I originally planned to write about my clothing thing. Back then it was the horror of having to wear any guy clothes. Yes you read it right—horror. I am a woman, and I am not a man. And because I am a transgender woman, I am super sensitive of what clothing I am wearing. To me it is clear cut (although I understand it can be different for different people trans or cis). Guy clothes equal man, woman’s clothes equal woman. Still my guy clothes linger in the apartment. Most of it is bagged and ready to be donate or consigned. It bothers me to even have them in my girlfriend’s apartment. There are guy clothes still at my place, but I am hardly there. Before starting to transition I would go there for private dress up time, and completely ignore my guy clothes. Now I don’t even do that there. A few of you might say I am freaking out. Well, I am. I can’t help it; it gives me a case of the cringes. Maybe not as bad as being called sir (another post coming on this), but I am still uncomfortable with it. Now on to my wardrobe. When I first started to identify as a woman, it did not occur that I would desire a full wardrobe of women’s clothing. I was satisfied with my small collection of sexy clothing, including my still beloved heels (4″). But when I began to transition, it dawn on me that I would need a whole other look to fit in with real world dressing and not the private world of dress-up. It started even before I actually started to transition. My first new woman’s clothing item was a shorts style bathing suit bottom. My girlfriend gave it to me for my birthday. I wore it all summer long at the pool with my shaved and smoothed legs. I wore a tee up top. I knew even than that I wanted to ditch my guy clothes. So I got a pair of Gloria Vanderbilt tapered jeans (black), and then a pair of blue jean shorts to take my walks in. Soon it was another pair of jeans (same style, ash color) and another pair of shorts (black with shorter legs). As summer wane I found two pair of jean style leggings (one black, one blue) at Aldi and a pair of woman’s sneakers. With some woman’s tees, I finally went out completely in woman’s clothing. Sounding like a woman obsessed? My girlfriend thinks so (or at least back then and probably still some today). But I have learned in my transgender reading that it is pretty normal to be so obsessed when beginning to transition. I also read that one transwoman stopped only after three years including hormones and surgery. But, importantly, my therapist does not think I am acting abnormally. Clothes, clothes, and more clothes yes! I am still in the process of building my wardrobe. But, in my mind I have so far to go. I am needing winter boots for one (got them Sunday actually). A replacement for my tote as the my current one (unisex by the way) is fraying on the straps. And, purple gloves (got today) to go with my new purple 3 in 1 winter jacket. And I am proud to report that I bought my first sensible skirt with a top to go with it, which I wore last Tuesday. They are both black with silver highlights. The skirt is an a-line going just below the knees. I have the feeling that like many woman I am familiar with I will be forever building my wardrobe. This spring will definitely require more purchases, which I will try to manage with my slim budget. Now on to the last thing I want to explore here. What clothing choices can I get away with in an obviously male body. Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) will help in certain respects. It should give me noticeable breasts and some padding on the my tush. My face should soften too and body hair become less, but that is not directly relate to what I can wear. The main issue which will probably my hips. HRT does nothing to change your bone structure. There is the possibility of using a corset, but I don’t know if I would want to get that drastic in the name of having a more feminine figure, if corsets actually work.† So, I probably will never have an hourglass figure or even very noticeable hips accept with continued weight loss within normal limits of course, especially at the tummy line. But, then again why do I even need that kind of figure. Is it because it is supposedly the ideal? I have never been one to go after fashion in the first place, so why shoot for the impossibly unrealistic body image. I don’t even want huge boobs, not even C-cups, so I will only have small hormone breasts I imagine. A-cups are actually my dream. But for now I am flat as a board so to speak. My sports bras give some padding, but not so naturally. There is another issue. This is connected with my clitty. Figure hugging dresses and tight crotch pants will show it. This would not only get me read, it would be very embarrassing for me. There are undergarments call gaffs. These help to hide male parts (clitty for me). A  lot of drag queens wear them. I have know idea how well they work. I will experiment with one from Amazon eventually. So until and also and if I get bottom surgery, hiding my clitty is the last frontier. Will I ever become comfortable about how my clothes will hang on me? I just might. I am very early in my transition, and so I am on what you could call high alert for now. This is bound to get better, as it already has in other areas. I am fortunate in that I have a strong sense of self, and this should serve me well in all aspects of my transitioning, including the clothing aspects.   † Depends where you go for your information. Medical sites like Healthline, are strongly against using them. They consider them very unhealthy. Also the claims for permanent alteration seems not to be true either.
    298 Posted by Stephie Gurl
  • We all have to wear them. Unless you live in a nudist camp. Can I really have an issue with wearing them? I sure can. It is not wearing them per se, but the kind of clothes that is my issue. So, yes I do have a thing about clothing. There are several areas to explore here. My relationship with guy clothes. My wardrobe. And, my ability to wear certain clothing items. I actually do not have a real relationship with guy clothes anymore. But, I did when I originally planned to write about my clothing thing. Back then it was the horror of having to wear any guy clothes. Yes you read it right—horror. I am a woman, and I am not a man. And because I am a transgender woman, I am super sensitive of what clothing I am wearing. To me it is clear cut (although I understand it can be different for different people trans or cis). Guy clothes equal man, woman’s clothes equal woman. Still my guy clothes linger in the apartment. Most of it is bagged and ready to be donate or consigned. It bothers me to even have them in my girlfriend’s apartment. There are guy clothes still at my place, but I am hardly there. Before starting to transition I would go there for private dress up time, and completely ignore my guy clothes. Now I don’t even do that there. A few of you might say I am freaking out. Well, I am. I can’t help it; it gives me a case of the cringes. Maybe not as bad as being called sir (another post coming on this), but I am still uncomfortable with it. Now on to my wardrobe. When I first started to identify as a woman, it did not occur that I would desire a full wardrobe of women’s clothing. I was satisfied with my small collection of sexy clothing, including my still beloved heels (4″). But when I began to transition, it dawn on me that I would need a whole other look to fit in with real world dressing and not the private world of dress-up. It started even before I actually started to transition. My first new woman’s clothing item was a shorts style bathing suit bottom. My girlfriend gave it to me for my birthday. I wore it all summer long at the pool with my shaved and smoothed legs. I wore a tee up top. I knew even than that I wanted to ditch my guy clothes. So I got a pair of Gloria Vanderbilt tapered jeans (black), and then a pair of blue jean shorts to take my walks in. Soon it was another pair of jeans (same style, ash color) and another pair of shorts (black with shorter legs). As summer wane I found two pair of jean style leggings (one black, one blue) at Aldi and a pair of woman’s sneakers. With some woman’s tees, I finally went out completely in woman’s clothing. Sounding like a woman obsessed? My girlfriend thinks so (or at least back then and probably still some today). But I have learned in my transgender reading that it is pretty normal to be so obsessed when beginning to transition. I also read that one transwoman stopped only after three years including hormones and surgery. But, importantly, my therapist does not think I am acting abnormally. Clothes, clothes, and more clothes yes! I am still in the process of building my wardrobe. But, in my mind I have so far to go. I am needing winter boots for one (got them Sunday actually). A replacement for my tote as the my current one (unisex by the way) is fraying on the straps. And, purple gloves (got today) to go with my new purple 3 in 1 winter jacket. And I am proud to report that I bought my first sensible skirt with a top to go with it, which I wore last Tuesday. They are both black with silver highlights. The skirt is an a-line going just below the knees. I have the feeling that like many woman I am familiar with I will be forever building my wardrobe. This spring will definitely require more purchases, which I will try to manage with my slim budget. Now on to the last thing I want to explore here. What clothing choices can I get away with in an obviously male body. Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) will help in certain respects. It should give me noticeable breasts and some padding on the my tush. My face should soften too and body hair become less, but that is not directly relate to what I can wear. The main issue which will probably my hips. HRT does nothing to change your bone structure. There is the possibility of using a corset, but I don’t know if I would want to get that drastic in the name of having a more feminine figure, if corsets actually work.† So, I probably will never have an hourglass figure or even very noticeable hips accept with continued weight loss within normal limits of course, especially at the tummy line. But, then again why do I even need that kind of figure. Is it because it is supposedly the ideal? I have never been one to go after fashion in the first place, so why shoot for the impossibly unrealistic body image. I don’t even want huge boobs, not even C-cups, so I will only have small hormone breasts I imagine. A-cups are actually my dream. But for now I am flat as a board so to speak. My sports bras give some padding, but not so naturally. There is another issue. This is connected with my clitty. Figure hugging dresses and tight crotch pants will show it. This would not only get me read, it would be very embarrassing for me. There are undergarments call gaffs. These help to hide male parts (clitty for me). A  lot of drag queens wear them. I have know idea how well they work. I will experiment with one from Amazon eventually. So until and also and if I get bottom surgery, hiding my clitty is the last frontier. Will I ever become comfortable about how my clothes will hang on me? I just might. I am very early in my transition, and so I am on what you could call high alert for now. This is bound to get better, as it already has in other areas. I am fortunate in that I have a strong sense of self, and this should serve me well in all aspects of my transitioning, including the clothing aspects.   † Depends where you go for your information. Medical sites like Healthline, are strongly against using them. They consider them very unhealthy. Also the claims for permanent alteration seems not to be true either.
    Dec 25, 2019 298
  • 31 Oct 2019
    dress and join me on cam i dress as a fem girl. i am a girl for tg, cd, and men. i am a new girl. thank you. i am safe claean and date classie tg,cd, men. i am Classie MaryFem what city do u live in. u can fly me to u. love mary email me and cam free at hang out. by gmail. my address for ur u s s e l l w s i m p s o n @ g m a i l . c o m
    338 Posted by Classie MaryFem
  • dress and join me on cam i dress as a fem girl. i am a girl for tg, cd, and men. i am a new girl. thank you. i am safe claean and date classie tg,cd, men. i am Classie MaryFem what city do u live in. u can fly me to u. love mary email me and cam free at hang out. by gmail. my address for ur u s s e l l w s i m p s o n @ g m a i l . c o m
    Oct 31, 2019 338
  • 27 Oct 2019
    https://gendersociety.com/forums/topic/10502-Uk-Goverment-discriminated-agaisnt-the-Trandgendered- Because your birth certificate depicts your recognised gender in law, a fact true when registered,    If a person applies for a GRC when it's issued the birth certificate is then altered to reflect the new gender,  they are then entitled to their pension at an earlier age in line with a woman's right's, some transgendered married people do not wish to apply for a GRC because they are under the impression a divorce is required BUT under the 2010 marriage act revisions 2013 a person can apply for a new amended marriage certificate at the same time the new birth certificate is issued, with a change of gender, before one had to get an annulment or a divorce and then enter a civil type marriage, now it saves all that expense and heart ache of going through that process for those wishing to stay married.   When people start their transition, they should ensure that DWP and all agencies are informed, and original Change of name deed polls are sent. The definition of a legal original document (not a photo copy) so print of 10 or more copies, of the document get each one witnessed and signed then sign them all in front of the witness, now you have 10 original deed polls.   A person can't grumble if they don't want or can't be arsed to comply with a few simple lawful requirements.   Otherwise every Tom, Dick & Harry will be taking advantage of the system,   People go to the trouble of changing their gender on their passports, driving documents, bank accounts, bank accounts, doctors and medical records, to get the recognition the want , need, why not apply for the GRC to get the pension?   Why do some people think this is discrimination,  Is having to pass a driving test, pay NI contributions, tax is that a form of general discrimination???? IF ANYTHING THE PENSION SYSTEM MEN  v WOMEN IS GENERALLY SEXUAL DISCRIMINATION UNDER THE EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES ACT. The amendment to the 2010 marriage act, 2013, when applying for a GRC, by both parties signing a statutory declaration of mutual agreement to continue in the marriage a new status marriage certificate will be issued along with a new birth certificate. not to be confused with a civil partnership. Part 1 of Schedule 5 makes changes to the Gender Recognition Act 2004 (the “Gender Recognition Act”). The Gender Recognition Act enables transsexual people to change their legal gender by applying for a gender recognition certificate under section 1 of that Act. The issue of a full gender recognition certificate enables recipients to be recognised for all legal purposes in their new gender (“the acquired gender”). Under the previous law, transsexual people who are married or in a civil partnership must end their marriage or civil partnership before a full gender recognition certificate can be issued. This is achieved by the Gender Recognition Panel issuing an interim gender recognition certificate to married applicants and applicants in civil partnerships, which causes the marriage or civil partnership to become voidable. Applicants then have six months from the date of issue of the interim gender recognition certificate to apply to the court to end their marriage or civil partnership. Once a marriage or civil partnership has been annulled (or a divorce or dissolution has occurred in Scotland) the court can issue a full gender recognition certificate. 146.Part 1 of this Schedule amends the Gender Recognition Act to enable an existing marriage registered in England and Wales or outside the UK (“protected marriage” defined in paragraph 14 as a marriage under the law of England and Wales, or a marriage under the law of a country or territory outside the United Kingdom) to continue where one or both parties change their legal gender and both parties wish to remain married. It also amends that Act to enable a civil partnership (“protected civil partnership” defined in paragraph 14 as a civil partnership under the law of England and Wales) to continue where both parties change their legal gender simultaneously and wish to remain in their civil partnership. 147.Paragraph 2 inserts new subsections (6A), (6B) and (6C) which amend the evidence requirements in section 3 of the Gender Recognition Act. At present, section 3(6)(a) of that Act requires transsexual people who apply to the Gender Recognition Panel for a gender recognition certificate to submit a statutory declaration as to whether they are married or in a civil partnership. This enables the Gender Recognition Panel to determine whether to issue a full gender recognition certificate (for people who are not married or in a civil partnership) or an interim certificate (for people who are married or in a civil partnership). 148.New subsection (6A) requires married applicants to include in their statutory declaration an additional declaration as to where their marriage was registered. This will enable the Gender Recognition Panel to determine whether the marriage is a protected marriage. Where the marriage is a protected marriage, new subsection (6B) requires an application to contain a declaration by the applicant’s spouse that he or she consents to the marriage continuing after the issue of a full gender recognition certificate (a “statutory declaration of consent”), or a statutory declaration by the applicant that his or her spouse has not made such a declaration. If the application contains a statutory declaration of consent by the applicant’s spouse, new subsection (6C) requires the Gender Recognition Panel to inform the spouse that an application has been made. 149.Paragraph 3 replaces existing subsections (2) and (3) of section 4 of the Gender Recognition Act (which provides for the issue of interim and full gender recognition certificates following an application) and inserts new subsections (3A) and (3B) into that section. The effect of these amendments is to enable a full gender recognition certificate to be issued:     https://gendersociety.com/forums/topic/10502-Uk-Goverment-discriminated-agaisnt-the-Trandgendered- F311AChange in gender of party to marriage (1)This section applies in relation to a protected marriage if (by virtue of section 4(2)(b) or 4A) a full gender recognition certificate is issued to a party to the marriage. (2)The continuity of the protected marriage is not affected by the relevant change in gender. (3)If the protected marriage is a foreign marriage— (a)the continuity of the marriage continues by virtue of subsection (2) notwithstanding any impediment under the proper law of the marriage; The ECJ found that the UK's marriage annulment condition (designed to avoid marriage between persons of the same sex) is "unrelated" to the retirement pension scheme. And so it concluded that UK legislation "constitutes direct discrimination based on sex''  and is therefore in breach of European law In my considered opinion, put simply this was not a win for the trangendered woman, as it stands legally she is still male, the win was for discrimination against men in general, the emphasis of the judgement was discrimination based on sex under the equality and oportuniities act. In the UK at present Trans people are not legally regarded in their adopted gender regarding the marriage act and for earlier pensions until the have a Gender Recognition Certificate     The EHRC ruling is rather confusing, stating that pensions are not related to the GRA, and that it is a gender issue, does that mean now that men can apply for their pension on the same terms that women get an earlier payment.    So throughout the EU it will cost billions.   Technically until someone is lawfully recognised in their new gender hence the GRP authorising the issue of a new birth certificate.   Until 2013 same sex marriage was not recognised, which in my considered opinion now means throughout the EU countries will have to amend their gender recognition acts, acts that at the time of introduction were ratified by the European Courts of Human rights.   Vatican City a separate state within the EU is exempt from complying in the main with various laws especially same sex marriage based on religious grounds,    As is The Irish republic, Spain and Portugal.    we have seen that some states have been forced to drop enforced medical procedures to qualify for a GRC, but the EU does not enforce those countries that have not dropped these procedures. Which basically means that someone in each member state will have to  take up issues with their own legal systems and then appeal to Strasbourg for a ruling, EU Human rights laws, are lacking continuance, once a judgement has been made an edict should be issued ordering all member states to amend and add to their own acts similar to our UK Judicial Precedent. Cristine say's Basically the court has ruled that each individual state has the right to impose restrictions rules in relation to what is termed a legal marriage and the conditions imposed within the scope of it's own GRA, in aspects of the marriage, but in this case the overriding factor is the unequal differential as to at what age men and women can apply for and receive their pensions.
  • https://gendersociety.com/forums/topic/10502-Uk-Goverment-discriminated-agaisnt-the-Trandgendered- Because your birth certificate depicts your recognised gender in law, a fact true when registered,    If a person applies for a GRC when it's issued the birth certificate is then altered to reflect the new gender,  they are then entitled to their pension at an earlier age in line with a woman's right's, some transgendered married people do not wish to apply for a GRC because they are under the impression a divorce is required BUT under the 2010 marriage act revisions 2013 a person can apply for a new amended marriage certificate at the same time the new birth certificate is issued, with a change of gender, before one had to get an annulment or a divorce and then enter a civil type marriage, now it saves all that expense and heart ache of going through that process for those wishing to stay married.   When people start their transition, they should ensure that DWP and all agencies are informed, and original Change of name deed polls are sent. The definition of a legal original document (not a photo copy) so print of 10 or more copies, of the document get each one witnessed and signed then sign them all in front of the witness, now you have 10 original deed polls.   A person can't grumble if they don't want or can't be arsed to comply with a few simple lawful requirements.   Otherwise every Tom, Dick & Harry will be taking advantage of the system,   People go to the trouble of changing their gender on their passports, driving documents, bank accounts, bank accounts, doctors and medical records, to get the recognition the want , need, why not apply for the GRC to get the pension?   Why do some people think this is discrimination,  Is having to pass a driving test, pay NI contributions, tax is that a form of general discrimination???? IF ANYTHING THE PENSION SYSTEM MEN  v WOMEN IS GENERALLY SEXUAL DISCRIMINATION UNDER THE EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES ACT. The amendment to the 2010 marriage act, 2013, when applying for a GRC, by both parties signing a statutory declaration of mutual agreement to continue in the marriage a new status marriage certificate will be issued along with a new birth certificate. not to be confused with a civil partnership. Part 1 of Schedule 5 makes changes to the Gender Recognition Act 2004 (the “Gender Recognition Act”). The Gender Recognition Act enables transsexual people to change their legal gender by applying for a gender recognition certificate under section 1 of that Act. The issue of a full gender recognition certificate enables recipients to be recognised for all legal purposes in their new gender (“the acquired gender”). Under the previous law, transsexual people who are married or in a civil partnership must end their marriage or civil partnership before a full gender recognition certificate can be issued. This is achieved by the Gender Recognition Panel issuing an interim gender recognition certificate to married applicants and applicants in civil partnerships, which causes the marriage or civil partnership to become voidable. Applicants then have six months from the date of issue of the interim gender recognition certificate to apply to the court to end their marriage or civil partnership. Once a marriage or civil partnership has been annulled (or a divorce or dissolution has occurred in Scotland) the court can issue a full gender recognition certificate. 146.Part 1 of this Schedule amends the Gender Recognition Act to enable an existing marriage registered in England and Wales or outside the UK (“protected marriage” defined in paragraph 14 as a marriage under the law of England and Wales, or a marriage under the law of a country or territory outside the United Kingdom) to continue where one or both parties change their legal gender and both parties wish to remain married. It also amends that Act to enable a civil partnership (“protected civil partnership” defined in paragraph 14 as a civil partnership under the law of England and Wales) to continue where both parties change their legal gender simultaneously and wish to remain in their civil partnership. 147.Paragraph 2 inserts new subsections (6A), (6B) and (6C) which amend the evidence requirements in section 3 of the Gender Recognition Act. At present, section 3(6)(a) of that Act requires transsexual people who apply to the Gender Recognition Panel for a gender recognition certificate to submit a statutory declaration as to whether they are married or in a civil partnership. This enables the Gender Recognition Panel to determine whether to issue a full gender recognition certificate (for people who are not married or in a civil partnership) or an interim certificate (for people who are married or in a civil partnership). 148.New subsection (6A) requires married applicants to include in their statutory declaration an additional declaration as to where their marriage was registered. This will enable the Gender Recognition Panel to determine whether the marriage is a protected marriage. Where the marriage is a protected marriage, new subsection (6B) requires an application to contain a declaration by the applicant’s spouse that he or she consents to the marriage continuing after the issue of a full gender recognition certificate (a “statutory declaration of consent”), or a statutory declaration by the applicant that his or her spouse has not made such a declaration. If the application contains a statutory declaration of consent by the applicant’s spouse, new subsection (6C) requires the Gender Recognition Panel to inform the spouse that an application has been made. 149.Paragraph 3 replaces existing subsections (2) and (3) of section 4 of the Gender Recognition Act (which provides for the issue of interim and full gender recognition certificates following an application) and inserts new subsections (3A) and (3B) into that section. The effect of these amendments is to enable a full gender recognition certificate to be issued:     https://gendersociety.com/forums/topic/10502-Uk-Goverment-discriminated-agaisnt-the-Trandgendered- F311AChange in gender of party to marriage (1)This section applies in relation to a protected marriage if (by virtue of section 4(2)(b) or 4A) a full gender recognition certificate is issued to a party to the marriage. (2)The continuity of the protected marriage is not affected by the relevant change in gender. (3)If the protected marriage is a foreign marriage— (a)the continuity of the marriage continues by virtue of subsection (2) notwithstanding any impediment under the proper law of the marriage; The ECJ found that the UK's marriage annulment condition (designed to avoid marriage between persons of the same sex) is "unrelated" to the retirement pension scheme. And so it concluded that UK legislation "constitutes direct discrimination based on sex''  and is therefore in breach of European law In my considered opinion, put simply this was not a win for the trangendered woman, as it stands legally she is still male, the win was for discrimination against men in general, the emphasis of the judgement was discrimination based on sex under the equality and oportuniities act. In the UK at present Trans people are not legally regarded in their adopted gender regarding the marriage act and for earlier pensions until the have a Gender Recognition Certificate     The EHRC ruling is rather confusing, stating that pensions are not related to the GRA, and that it is a gender issue, does that mean now that men can apply for their pension on the same terms that women get an earlier payment.    So throughout the EU it will cost billions.   Technically until someone is lawfully recognised in their new gender hence the GRP authorising the issue of a new birth certificate.   Until 2013 same sex marriage was not recognised, which in my considered opinion now means throughout the EU countries will have to amend their gender recognition acts, acts that at the time of introduction were ratified by the European Courts of Human rights.   Vatican City a separate state within the EU is exempt from complying in the main with various laws especially same sex marriage based on religious grounds,    As is The Irish republic, Spain and Portugal.    we have seen that some states have been forced to drop enforced medical procedures to qualify for a GRC, but the EU does not enforce those countries that have not dropped these procedures. Which basically means that someone in each member state will have to  take up issues with their own legal systems and then appeal to Strasbourg for a ruling, EU Human rights laws, are lacking continuance, once a judgement has been made an edict should be issued ordering all member states to amend and add to their own acts similar to our UK Judicial Precedent. Cristine say's Basically the court has ruled that each individual state has the right to impose restrictions rules in relation to what is termed a legal marriage and the conditions imposed within the scope of it's own GRA, in aspects of the marriage, but in this case the overriding factor is the unequal differential as to at what age men and women can apply for and receive their pensions.
    Oct 27, 2019 362
  • 22 Oct 2019
    Lawyers And Light BulbsQ: How many lawyers does it take to change a light bulb? This is a question that’s been at the forefront of discussion amongst the most prestigious scholars and lawmakers of the world. Finally, after getting them all together – the question has been answered. A: Such number as may be deemed necessary to perform the stated task in a timely and efficient manner within the strictures of the following agreement. Whereas the party of the first part, also known as ‘the lawyers’ and the party of the second part, also known as ‘the light bulb’ do hereby agree to a transaction wherein the party of the second part shall be removed from the current position as a result of failure to perform previously agreed upon duties, i.e. the lighting, elucidation, and otherwise illumination of the area ranging from the front (North) door, through the entryway, terminating at an area just through the primary living area, demarcated by the beginning of the carpet, any spillover illumination being at the option of the party of the second part and not required by the aforementioned agreement between the parties. The aforementioned removal transaction shall include, but not be limited to, the following steps: 1. The party of the first part shall, with or without elevation at his option, by means of a chair, step stool, ladder or any other means of elevation, grasp the party of the second part and rotate the party of the second part in a counter clockwise direction, said direction being non-negotiable. Said grasping and rotation of the party of the second part shall be undertaken by the party of the first part to maintain the structural integrity of the party of the second part, notwithstanding the aforementioned failure of the party of the second part to perform the customary and agreed upon duties. The foregoing notwithstanding, however, both parties stipulate that structural failure of the party of the second part may be incidental to the aforementioned failure to perform and in such case the party of the first part shall be held blameless for such structural failure insofar as the non-negotiable directional codicil is observed by the party of the first part throughout. 2. Upon reaching a point where the party of the second part becomes seperated from the party of the third part, also known as the ‘receptacle’, the party of the first part shall have the option of disposing of the party of the second part in a manner consistent with all applicable state, local, and federal statutes. 3. Once separation and disposal have been achieved, the party of the first part shall have the option of beginning the installation of the party of the fourth part, also known as ‘new light bulb’. This installation shall occur in a manner consistent with the reverse procedures described in step one of this self same document, being careful to note that the rotation should occur in a clockwise direction, said direction also being non-negotiable and only until the party of the fourth part becomes snug in the party of the third part and in fact becomes the party of the second part. Note: The above described steps may be performed, at the option of the party of the first part, by said party of the first part, or by his or her heirs and assigns, or by any and all persons authorised by him or her to do sum the objective being to produce a level of illumination in the immediate vicinity of the aforementioned front (North) door consistent with maximisation of ingress and revenue for the party of the fifth part, also known as ‘The Firm’.
  • Lawyers And Light BulbsQ: How many lawyers does it take to change a light bulb? This is a question that’s been at the forefront of discussion amongst the most prestigious scholars and lawmakers of the world. Finally, after getting them all together – the question has been answered. A: Such number as may be deemed necessary to perform the stated task in a timely and efficient manner within the strictures of the following agreement. Whereas the party of the first part, also known as ‘the lawyers’ and the party of the second part, also known as ‘the light bulb’ do hereby agree to a transaction wherein the party of the second part shall be removed from the current position as a result of failure to perform previously agreed upon duties, i.e. the lighting, elucidation, and otherwise illumination of the area ranging from the front (North) door, through the entryway, terminating at an area just through the primary living area, demarcated by the beginning of the carpet, any spillover illumination being at the option of the party of the second part and not required by the aforementioned agreement between the parties. The aforementioned removal transaction shall include, but not be limited to, the following steps: 1. The party of the first part shall, with or without elevation at his option, by means of a chair, step stool, ladder or any other means of elevation, grasp the party of the second part and rotate the party of the second part in a counter clockwise direction, said direction being non-negotiable. Said grasping and rotation of the party of the second part shall be undertaken by the party of the first part to maintain the structural integrity of the party of the second part, notwithstanding the aforementioned failure of the party of the second part to perform the customary and agreed upon duties. The foregoing notwithstanding, however, both parties stipulate that structural failure of the party of the second part may be incidental to the aforementioned failure to perform and in such case the party of the first part shall be held blameless for such structural failure insofar as the non-negotiable directional codicil is observed by the party of the first part throughout. 2. Upon reaching a point where the party of the second part becomes seperated from the party of the third part, also known as the ‘receptacle’, the party of the first part shall have the option of disposing of the party of the second part in a manner consistent with all applicable state, local, and federal statutes. 3. Once separation and disposal have been achieved, the party of the first part shall have the option of beginning the installation of the party of the fourth part, also known as ‘new light bulb’. This installation shall occur in a manner consistent with the reverse procedures described in step one of this self same document, being careful to note that the rotation should occur in a clockwise direction, said direction also being non-negotiable and only until the party of the fourth part becomes snug in the party of the third part and in fact becomes the party of the second part. Note: The above described steps may be performed, at the option of the party of the first part, by said party of the first part, or by his or her heirs and assigns, or by any and all persons authorised by him or her to do sum the objective being to produce a level of illumination in the immediate vicinity of the aforementioned front (North) door consistent with maximisation of ingress and revenue for the party of the fifth part, also known as ‘The Firm’.
    Oct 22, 2019 354
  • 07 Oct 2019
    This is a writing about my night at Candy Girls.It is an account of what was a very nice time.Some erotic content, but not to detailed I think.No names are given. But if any of you that I came in contact with want to supplement the story you are welcome to do so by commenting. In fact it would be most welcoming. Nice and clean, or down and dirty details that is up to you.Together we can make a nice count of a nice evening in a nice place.It all happened, but I might have mixed a bit around the order of things.If you find any spelling or grammar mistakes, feel free to send me a message and I will update and correct it. Otherwise enjoy.I got to the hotel around 1630, Perfect timing, plenty of time to get my self ready with no stress.I sent out a bit of information to some from tvchix, and also logged on to the chatrooms, it is nice to chat a bit while getting ready.Shower, a tight shaving of the face, and a god cleaning all over, including a good rinse of my bumhole.Had a drink while doing the make up and chatting a bit, I must admit I was a bit nervous, the other times I have been I have had Cindy come to the hotel to do my make up, but this time I was going to do it my self, It took some time, but around 2130 I was all dressed in a Burgundy blouse, black skirt and boots, and my blonde wig, And the make up the best I could. Cindy has also ordered the taxi for me, and walked me to it, so again new territory for me, so called and ordered the taxi. Packed a bag with some sparkling wine, a small handbag, make up and other necessities. When the text came, I grabbed the bag, took the last sip of my drink, and a very deep breathe, and walked out the hotel room. In to the lift, out of the lift and thru the reception, so far so good.Once outside I looked for the described Taxi, but it was nowhere to be seen. So I called the Taxi company again, They offered to send another one, But I was already outside, it was nice evening and the club is not far from the hotel, so I said no and decided to walk instead.What a trill. I walked past the Tesco. There where some people there, I would think someone saw me, but I was to occupied trying to walk nice in the heels. Then in to the industrial site. And around the corner to see the entrance to Candy Girls, That was nice I was thinking,  both to see the safety of the club, and knowing I did the walk.Once inside I went up to the bar to pay my entrance fee and leave my Sparkling wine.and ordered a Cola, I wanted to calm down a bit before drinking anymore.Went to the dressing room to check the make up. And leave the bag.I did a walk around the club, some new features since I was there last. In the new cinema thing where already on the way, with some men watching the movie and some of the girls having nice times with their cocks, nice for those who like this, but not really what I prefer. After the walk around I went to the bar to have a glass of wine. It was nice sitting there just soaking in the atmosphere and felling good, talked a bit to some other girls. After some time I got a bit quiet in the bar so I got the bar lady to top my wine, and I headed for the playroom. 2 sexy girls where feeling and caring each other, I watched a bit first, before slowly joining them. It was so nice an hot. Some nice kissing, and I got the first taste of cock for the evening. A very nice start, after fixing my make up I went to the bar to get some more wine. Some more people there now, so some nice chatting, When I got back to the play room there where lots more people and lots of play. So I just stayed there watched a bit first, then got involved my self. Had the pleasure of sucking a nice pierced cock of a girl, that was a first for me. Also sucked a girl till she came in my mouth, that is so nice and erotic just swallowing , tasting the nice salty taste of cum. Some girls also had a taste of my now hard and willing cock. I also got the pleasure of getting fucked, not for a long time, but it was very good.After a bit it just got a bit to crowded in there, so I decided to take a break. I Sat down just outside the room in the sofa, next to a nice and sexy a bit mature lady. Soon we where at it, exploring our bodies, She started sucking me, I think she was there with a master. Or maybe he just liked to control, the Man kept telling her to go deeper down on me, she seemed to like this so I put my hand on her head and pressed a bit every time she went down, it was nice having total control. The man kept calling her dirty words, it was nice, but after a while it was time for a drink refill.A mix of bar stops and playroom, very nice.There was one girl who I think was there almost the whole evening, she must have had a wonderful time, getting fucked, sucked and really got a lot of fun.In the bar I had talked to a nice man some during the night, I asked if he could take some photos for me in front of the car in the dungeon.Later at the bar we got a bit more friendly, so I suggested we go to one of the rooms. He took my arm and escorted me to the nearest room. Some nice kissing, I got his warm cock out, it was just the right size, So I got down and sucked him a bit, but I really wanted his cock inside me, so after a bit of fumbling he was ready with a condom on his well lubbed cock. Me on all four on the bed. It was very nice to feel his cock inside me. I really liked to get fucked now, it was so good. When he came  I felt I had been good and properly fucked. I thanked him for the nice time.The evening was coming to and end. It slowed down. After a nice chatting round in the bar I decided to walk home. I must have walked only about 50 meters when a car stopped, the man inside said he was also coming from Candy Girls and that he would be happy to give me a lift back to the hotel, I was all set on walking, but it was late and I was tired so I accepted, We talked a bit for the short ride to the hotel, When he parked outside we talked a bit more, and it turned a bit erotic, so I thought why not finish the evening with some late night car sex, But it certainly didn't go the way I was expecting, instead of me getting to his cock, he rubbed mine and took it out and started sucking me, very unexpected but very good. It was late and I with a bit to drink so I am not sure if I came, but he sure new how to suck a nice transvestite cock.We said goodbye, and he drove of. Reaching for my keycard in my bag, I discovered I had lost it.So all dressed up, with full make up and everything I had to go to the night receptionist to get a new one. He was all polite and didn't seem to care about my looks, he just professionally asked a few questions to confirm I was actually staying there, and just gave me a new card, and that was it.What an ending to a fantastic night.Can`t wait to sort out a new date for my next travel to Sunburry and the fantastic club that is Candy Girls
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  • This is a writing about my night at Candy Girls.It is an account of what was a very nice time.Some erotic content, but not to detailed I think.No names are given. But if any of you that I came in contact with want to supplement the story you are welcome to do so by commenting. In fact it would be most welcoming. Nice and clean, or down and dirty details that is up to you.Together we can make a nice count of a nice evening in a nice place.It all happened, but I might have mixed a bit around the order of things.If you find any spelling or grammar mistakes, feel free to send me a message and I will update and correct it. Otherwise enjoy.I got to the hotel around 1630, Perfect timing, plenty of time to get my self ready with no stress.I sent out a bit of information to some from tvchix, and also logged on to the chatrooms, it is nice to chat a bit while getting ready.Shower, a tight shaving of the face, and a god cleaning all over, including a good rinse of my bumhole.Had a drink while doing the make up and chatting a bit, I must admit I was a bit nervous, the other times I have been I have had Cindy come to the hotel to do my make up, but this time I was going to do it my self, It took some time, but around 2130 I was all dressed in a Burgundy blouse, black skirt and boots, and my blonde wig, And the make up the best I could. Cindy has also ordered the taxi for me, and walked me to it, so again new territory for me, so called and ordered the taxi. Packed a bag with some sparkling wine, a small handbag, make up and other necessities. When the text came, I grabbed the bag, took the last sip of my drink, and a very deep breathe, and walked out the hotel room. In to the lift, out of the lift and thru the reception, so far so good.Once outside I looked for the described Taxi, but it was nowhere to be seen. So I called the Taxi company again, They offered to send another one, But I was already outside, it was nice evening and the club is not far from the hotel, so I said no and decided to walk instead.What a trill. I walked past the Tesco. There where some people there, I would think someone saw me, but I was to occupied trying to walk nice in the heels. Then in to the industrial site. And around the corner to see the entrance to Candy Girls, That was nice I was thinking,  both to see the safety of the club, and knowing I did the walk.Once inside I went up to the bar to pay my entrance fee and leave my Sparkling wine.and ordered a Cola, I wanted to calm down a bit before drinking anymore.Went to the dressing room to check the make up. And leave the bag.I did a walk around the club, some new features since I was there last. In the new cinema thing where already on the way, with some men watching the movie and some of the girls having nice times with their cocks, nice for those who like this, but not really what I prefer. After the walk around I went to the bar to have a glass of wine. It was nice sitting there just soaking in the atmosphere and felling good, talked a bit to some other girls. After some time I got a bit quiet in the bar so I got the bar lady to top my wine, and I headed for the playroom. 2 sexy girls where feeling and caring each other, I watched a bit first, before slowly joining them. It was so nice an hot. Some nice kissing, and I got the first taste of cock for the evening. A very nice start, after fixing my make up I went to the bar to get some more wine. Some more people there now, so some nice chatting, When I got back to the play room there where lots more people and lots of play. So I just stayed there watched a bit first, then got involved my self. Had the pleasure of sucking a nice pierced cock of a girl, that was a first for me. Also sucked a girl till she came in my mouth, that is so nice and erotic just swallowing , tasting the nice salty taste of cum. Some girls also had a taste of my now hard and willing cock. I also got the pleasure of getting fucked, not for a long time, but it was very good.After a bit it just got a bit to crowded in there, so I decided to take a break. I Sat down just outside the room in the sofa, next to a nice and sexy a bit mature lady. Soon we where at it, exploring our bodies, She started sucking me, I think she was there with a master. Or maybe he just liked to control, the Man kept telling her to go deeper down on me, she seemed to like this so I put my hand on her head and pressed a bit every time she went down, it was nice having total control. The man kept calling her dirty words, it was nice, but after a while it was time for a drink refill.A mix of bar stops and playroom, very nice.There was one girl who I think was there almost the whole evening, she must have had a wonderful time, getting fucked, sucked and really got a lot of fun.In the bar I had talked to a nice man some during the night, I asked if he could take some photos for me in front of the car in the dungeon.Later at the bar we got a bit more friendly, so I suggested we go to one of the rooms. He took my arm and escorted me to the nearest room. Some nice kissing, I got his warm cock out, it was just the right size, So I got down and sucked him a bit, but I really wanted his cock inside me, so after a bit of fumbling he was ready with a condom on his well lubbed cock. Me on all four on the bed. It was very nice to feel his cock inside me. I really liked to get fucked now, it was so good. When he came  I felt I had been good and properly fucked. I thanked him for the nice time.The evening was coming to and end. It slowed down. After a nice chatting round in the bar I decided to walk home. I must have walked only about 50 meters when a car stopped, the man inside said he was also coming from Candy Girls and that he would be happy to give me a lift back to the hotel, I was all set on walking, but it was late and I was tired so I accepted, We talked a bit for the short ride to the hotel, When he parked outside we talked a bit more, and it turned a bit erotic, so I thought why not finish the evening with some late night car sex, But it certainly didn't go the way I was expecting, instead of me getting to his cock, he rubbed mine and took it out and started sucking me, very unexpected but very good. It was late and I with a bit to drink so I am not sure if I came, but he sure new how to suck a nice transvestite cock.We said goodbye, and he drove of. Reaching for my keycard in my bag, I discovered I had lost it.So all dressed up, with full make up and everything I had to go to the night receptionist to get a new one. He was all polite and didn't seem to care about my looks, he just professionally asked a few questions to confirm I was actually staying there, and just gave me a new card, and that was it.What an ending to a fantastic night.Can`t wait to sort out a new date for my next travel to Sunburry and the fantastic club that is Candy Girls
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